LAST LIVE IMPACT OF 2012, BROTHERS! 8PM EST

[jimfromsaintpaul]

Seee what it is, is you guys are willing to give the iffy stuff the benefit of the doubt. I am not.

I don't make excuses anymore for the WWE since I have just given up. They got the benefit of the doubt from me for months after the Punk swerve. That time is past. I certainly won't make them for TNA now either. The D-Von swerve is NOT on the level of the Punk swerve. Not even close. It's D-Von Frickin dudley. Your *TV* Champ. I mean, i was fooled, so kudos to TNA for pulling that off. Still, not EVEN on the same level.

My mantra for the last 6 months is that both companies have a few good segments/people to watch for. The rest is crap. How much that crap sucks varies from storyline to storyline and company to company.

Unless they are doing the best slow build of it EVER, Hogan is not retarted or senile. They are doing the "overprotective father bit" and they can GTFO. Bully Ray hasn;t done shit. AA is ALWAYS worthy of being on TV. Him being a part of this storyline builds him up with the marks who still just randomly turn in to see Hogan and that's it. Of course it's better then the "date rape AJ Styles" storyling. Only Mae Young giving birth to a hand comes to mind as a worse storyline then that one in the history of US Wrestling.

Yes, Vince ruined Punk.

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TNA is a decent, Southern wrestling territory. Their booking says this, and so does the wrestling. They think small and I'm all right with that.

Hogan is the guy who had it all and lost it in real life. You can't watch him on TV without knowing or seeing that. His ex-wife has done everything to make him miserable, his best friend talked him into banging his hot wife and filmed it, he works in fucking TNA for tourists, and both his kids have turned out spoiled and worthless. The general manager of Impact is the best he can manage? This, after Wrestlemania III, V, and VI? The man's been World Champion enough to have held it for a whole decade. Yet in kayfabe and in real life, he works for the money mark daughter of a mid-level energy magnate.

Hogan has been defeated, by life, by time and by his own hubris. He can't work a match, so he's reduced to the on-air authority figure. After being the biggest name in the business, Hogan is now at the same level as Teddy fucking Long, as far as his on-air role goes.

So to me, the Hulk Hogan on Impact is the grumpy, beaten-down boss who pissed it all away, and must now work this middle management job for a small-time wrestling promotion. He got his useless daughter a job because it was that or stripping for her. Now Bully Ray's porking her, and Hogan is creeped out, because a 40 year old man is putting it to his 24 year old daughter.

He has every right to be pissed. It's one more indignity Hogan has to suffer, one more remindwe for Hulk Hogan, the character, that he's a failure. It wasn't supposed to end this way. He should've retired Flair at Wrestlemania, he should've broken the streak, he should've been given the tearful send-off in WWE. Yet here he is, listening to another wrestler bitch that he wants his title shot, dealing with Aces and 8's doing whatever they want for no logical reason, and now his own daughter is getting schtupped by the guy who used to stutter and put people through tables.

So regarding Hogan the character we see on TV, he's pitiful. You feel bad for him. He was the hero of millions of children, and now he holds weekly roundtables as a bunch of meatheads beg for title shots in front of non-paying fans.

The best part of all is this story is being done to make the real-life Hogan feel important, like he still matters and has a say. He makes token, crappy decisions for the booking that hurt storylines, but people suffer it because fuck it, it's Hogan. Yet everyone in TNA knows he's failed, and this comes right across in the writing. The emperor is stark fucking naked, and TNA is pointing it out to us.

[jimfromsaintpaul]

Or an old guy is pissed his daughter is dating an older man.

IMO, you folks are giving TNA writers WAAAAAY too much credit.

To each our own of course.

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