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Post by hobblekitty on Jul 20, 2012 9:26:13 GMT -6
Holy crap there is nothing in there except one picture!! That profile used to be LOADED. Though, I am not TF anymore so there could be stuff in there that liters can't see I guess...
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Post by sharktrager on Jul 20, 2012 10:11:09 GMT -6
I get the strange feeling we now know who has been sending complaints about content of the wrestling thread. Wait, someone has been actively complaining about the wrestling thread? Who? GD? Can't be sure someone really was, but I was told that the actions against us in the thread were not because a mod was following us or looking for it, implying someone had complained. And, frankly, there are a few of the less active posters who are wrestling fans who are kind of dicks in other threads so it could be them, But I would think it's a lot more likely the complaints, if they really existed, came from someone who was part of her clique than a random user.
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Post by hobblekitty on Jul 20, 2012 10:24:05 GMT -6
Can't be sure someone really was, but I was told that the actions against us in the thread were not because a mod was following us or looking for it, implying someone had complained. And, frankly, there are a few of the less active posters who are wrestling fans who are kind of dicks in other threads so it could be them, But I would think it's a lot more likely the complaints, if they really existed, came from someone who was part of her clique than a random user. I think the complainer would have to be an fWc member in addition to potentially also being a GD fawner. Because I can't imagine someone who was not a member of the fWc being able to connect the dots otherwise. Probably one of the anti OT nazi "n00bs" who always feel it necessary to throw in a snide comment about how much nicer it is now that every comment goosesteps in perfect formation behind the last. IT'S AN INSIDE JOB!!!! Meh, fuck it anyway. I like this board. Conversations ebb and flow and occasionally digress. It's much more natural that way IMHO.
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Post by styckx on Jul 20, 2012 10:36:49 GMT -6
Wow, all the spam and teaser photos are gone.. Amazing
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Post by desertgeek on Jul 20, 2012 18:11:42 GMT -6
Hallelujah! Let's see how long this lasts though.
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Post by strahdd on Jul 21, 2012 0:37:25 GMT -6
So I recently re-read the thread where she admitted she had a yellowhaired alt account. I had forgotten about that and it amused me greatly that the reason she had that alt was because she didn't want her pics on the site as she didn't think she was as pretty as the girl in her alt account pic. Then i found out she's been a cam girl for a few years. I don't see how she got away with everything as long as she did.
Yes, I am pretty bored at 1 in the morning.
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Post by sharktrager on Jul 21, 2012 10:36:16 GMT -6
So I recently re-read the thread where she admitted she had a yellowhaired alt account. I had forgotten about that and it amused me greatly that the reason she had that alt was because she didn't want her pics on the site as she didn't think she was as pretty as the girl in her alt account pic. Then i found out she's been a cam girl for a few years. I don't see how she got away with everything as long as she did. Yes, I am pretty bored at 1 in the morning. Pay special attention to 2 things: 1) The person who called her out the most was a female, and se gets trashed and doesn't back down. 2) Almost all of the women who posted, defending or attacking, are no longer active on Fark, including the major attention whores. I guarantee you that her behavior contributed to the second, and while her threads may get clicks, they cost Drew users. Most people know how to find pics of actually attractive naked women on the net without being spoonfed by a sub-par stripper with a drinking problem and a penchant for committing fraud.
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Post by desertgeek on Jul 21, 2012 18:48:55 GMT -6
I told you so, Smiths. Drew would figure it out eventually. It was just slower than I had thought it would be.
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Post by Auntie Cheesus on Jul 21, 2012 19:39:15 GMT -6
This kinda blew up in their face a bit. Fun fun fun. It probably doesn't help matters that we sit over here, connecting detonators to wires and attaching the wires to blast boxes... and pushing plungers on Twitter.
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Post by Auntie Cheesus on Jul 21, 2012 20:51:16 GMT -6
I don't know about you, Mister Smiths, but I come from a long line of shit stirrers. To make matters worse, I was adopted by even bigger shit stirrers. That is a story that is best reserved for direct person to person interface, behind closed and locked doors. Bring liquor.
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Post by desertgeek on Jul 21, 2012 21:20:05 GMT -6
Auntie Cheesus: Today at 12:49pm, Smiths wrote: This kinda blew up in their face a bit.
Fun fun fun.
It probably doesn't help matters that we sit over here, connecting detonators to wires and attaching the wires to blast boxes... and pushing plungers on Twitter.
they were probably far happier when it was limited to Farkback they could just close as "false alarm". Well, it helps that you had enough people willing to raise hell on your behalf. Sometimes, that's all it takes.
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Post by sharktrager on Jul 22, 2012 8:40:03 GMT -6
The problem is that the mods are also deleting a ton of shit and people not on Twitter don't even know what's going on.
And, he's also right that the majority of the bullshit is a handful of posters that have Alt's and are mods or have mod protection. They do shit to drive pageviews, with no though about long term effects/users who leave. I also wonder what percentage of the pageviews are from a core of 50-100 users involved in the bullshit.
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Post by desertgeek on Jul 22, 2012 12:18:18 GMT -6
I just saw the screenshot myself and he's 100000% on the money. The only area where I enjoy conversation is the Sports tab because 95% of the talk in there is somewhat intelligent. I would love to be in the other threads discussing things, but it's such a derp fest that it's not worth it. Even TF Discussion is a flaming pile of shit.
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Post by LucklessWonder on Jul 22, 2012 15:43:07 GMT -6
Yeah, the sports tab is an oasis of sanity in a sea of derp.
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Post by desertgeek on Jul 22, 2012 19:32:11 GMT -6
desertgeek:Yeah the screenshot is spot-on and someone should buy the man a beer. I also like when I see someone I don't even know and have never communicated with on Fark spouting the same goddamn shit I spouted. Makes me feel the mods' little attacks on me and my "paranoia" are not worth me even internalizing "am i really the only one thinking this way? maybe they're right". I think Fark survived Digg and people thought it was immune because of that. Reddit is a whole other ballgame and I think it's been a real headcase for the current moderation staff who somehow have to feel the whole TotalFark system and the setup of the site somehoww justifies what they do and how they are behaving. There was no way in hell that we were alone in our thoughts there. I think it was something that was brewing for a little while and finally enough was enough. GD was the most glaring example of this for us, but there were others who had their own examples as well. Fark surviving Digg? Buddy, let me tell you something: Digg fucked themselves. Did you hear that they were brought out the week before last for the massive sum of $500,000? And no, I didn't forget a zero. And how much money was put into that site by venture capital firms? $45 million. And there's multiple theories as to why they bombed (I recommend listening to last week's This Week in Tech podcast to hear a few, it will come a little before the halfway point of the show). But when one of the women on the show said something about Reddit, I realized something. Fark and Reddit are doing the same damn thing, but in totally different ways. And at least until recently, both ways worked. It's all about preference and I prefer the Fark style over Reddit's. I'd rather take 100 chair shots to the head than look at Reddit's threaded comments for more than 10 minutes. Because the styles are so different, if I was Drew, Tony et al.; I wouldn't look at Reddit as competition. Fark's been around for what? 12 years? It's a system that's proven to work. Meanwhile, Reddit is just doing a better version of Digg, without the massive influx of money.
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Post by verbaltoxin on Jul 22, 2012 20:56:33 GMT -6
Funny enough, I just went to Digg for the first time in 2 years. Their top stories have 3 comments. Some have 0. I did manage to find one with 12!
Fark is only worthwhile for the comments on the stories, since they greenlight things 2-4 days after they happened in many cases. Fark is usually late compared to Reddit, except when it comes to big, breaking stories. Reddit is much more superior when it comes to actual content, and it's infinitely configurable.
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Post by styckx on Jul 23, 2012 9:44:15 GMT -6
Digg fucked themselves because of the same politics that makes editing a wiki page with correct information absolutely fucking pointless unless you're blessed to be in certain circles because the shit will be reverted in minutes.. Circles and cliques are lame no matter the website. Everyone should be an equal in the end user crowd and there should never be lines connecting staff w/ end users.
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Post by LucklessWonder on Jul 23, 2012 9:59:23 GMT -6
I thought the original rivalry was Farkers vs.SomethingAwful goons? that was before Digg, Reddit or 4chan got big though.
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Post by sharktrager on Jul 23, 2012 17:44:46 GMT -6
Name another user who would have posted a pic like that of themselves and they'd have a point.
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Post by LucklessWonder on Jul 23, 2012 19:57:20 GMT -6
Name another user who would have posted a pic like that of themselves and they'd have a point. Gorgor?
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Post by fender on Jul 24, 2012 10:29:12 GMT -6
Name another user who would have posted a pic like that of themselves and they'd have a point. Gorgor? Shh, we do not speak of Gorgor. He is Legend.
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Post by Auntie Cheesus on Jul 24, 2012 10:36:14 GMT -6
fender: Yesterday at 8:57pm , LucklessWonder wrote: Yesterday at 6:44pm , sharktrager wrote:Name another user who would have posted a pic like that of themselves and they'd have a point.
Gorgor?
Shh, we do not speak of Gorgor. He is Legend.
Be very careful what you wish for, as that wish may be granted.
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Post by desertgeek on Jul 25, 2012 22:17:10 GMT -6
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Post by Auntie Cheesus on Jul 26, 2012 5:32:05 GMT -6
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Post by verbaltoxin on Jul 26, 2012 16:35:34 GMT -6
I was in the panties thread. One of her white knights, DirkGently, explained the Fark mods ran Janet off. So no more Grables.....for now.
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Post by verbaltoxin on Jul 26, 2012 16:58:22 GMT -6
Suicide by mod?
Anyway she communicated through Dirk that it was the admins and mods who ran her off. Her profile still exists, she's not banned, but she won't come back.
Hopefully this is the end of this business.
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Post by sharktrager on Jul 26, 2012 17:14:01 GMT -6
Auntie Cheesus: desertgeek: Just curious, does anyone know if this guy is a James alt?
www.fark.com/comments/7232812/78300960#c78300960
No, I don't think that's a James! alt.
yeah don't think so. No one is who they say they are anyway. Fark teaches me there are a LOT of people who sound insanely similar to eachother. Never ceased to amaze me that someone could come out with something like "Student Loans are equivalent to the slavery the blacks had in the cotton fields" and mean it as if it was their completely valid, non-insane argument.... then have people actually supporting it and saying "That's a GREAT analogy YEAH!" That's a different example. Farkers by and large are not at all tolerant of differing opinions and the discussions regularly become an echo chamber with Farkers repeating things they heard on Fark as if they were original thoughts. Kind of like the memes stolen from 4 chan Farkers always take credit for.
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Post by styckx on Jul 26, 2012 17:15:11 GMT -6
Yay so Drew is going to get proactive and hands on in Fark again? I miss old Fark a lot.. It's still fun but it's clearly become a business and I honestly can't remember the last time Drew actively participated with his own hive (and twitter doesn't fucking count)..
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Post by desertgeek on Jul 26, 2012 23:52:01 GMT -6
Yay so Drew is going to get proactive and hands on in Fark again? I miss old Fark a lot.. It's still fun but it's clearly become a business and I honestly can't remember the last time Drew actively participated with his own hive (and twitter doesn't fucking count).. I sort of doubt that Drew will be involved in day-to-day operations on Fark again. But I do suspect that he'll rein in his mods and admins a bit and force them to actively enforce the rules. So don't fuck up, Smiths. I should note that a week ago, when I emailed Drew about the bullshit with being threatened with a permanent ban for one complaint about GD, Drew replied back saying that "she's not being protected." Well, he was telling the truth. I'm 3 days from the end of my TF subscription. To be honest, if I didn't have to penny pinch a bit right now; I would be reconsidering my not renewing since it seems like Drew is trying to fix things. Ultimately, that's all we've been asking for- fix the problems. And a big problem has been fixed.
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Post by Auntie Cheesus on Jul 27, 2012 9:40:59 GMT -6
Smiths, did Drew ever respond to your latest missive, or is he still slogging through "Anna Karenina"?
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