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Post by Cuvis the Conqueror on Jan 7, 2013 22:20:40 GMT -6
So... when does Chikara's new season start?
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Post by sharktrager on Jan 7, 2013 22:21:20 GMT -6
Verbaltoxin/Lingualvenom: Punk says the kiddie insults don't faze him. So Rock makes more kiddie insults. He is obsessed with talking about other dudes genitalia. I don't get it. Easy. Rock is a homophobic jock from way back. Miami U, baby! Based on an old SI interview he did I'm not sure he's not a closet case.
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Post by jimfromsaintpaul on Jan 7, 2013 22:22:48 GMT -6
Cm Punk compared himself to God.
i don't remember hearing that from a wrestler before.
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Post by Ed Becker on Jan 9, 2013 5:12:44 GMT -6
The more I think about it, the more I was underwhelmed by Rock and how the way he was used kinda cuts the nuts off of the current roster. Allow me to drunkenly explain...
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The best thing that Rock has is his charisma. It's hard to boo him when he comes out. Hogan was the same way. I hated him as a kid mark in the '80's, but goddamn did he light up a room. I can't take that away from either. Not many people have that.
Rock's promo on Monday was shit. He's been gone. I don't care that he's a year older than me, he can still go. His promo was like what I tell my 3 year old niece. A former wrestler that is an actor can come back and challenge the guy, as undersized as he is for the company's trophy rings hollow to me. In the text of the title.
In defense of WWE, I'll give them credit for putting the deal on a guy that ain't their blueprint of a champ and keeping with it for over a year. Out of the guys from years ago that I knew from my MAW days that made the big time, I never saw Punk as that guy, but I did. He managed to turn it up every time he got into the ring.
WWE has some great workers. They need to marry them. Punk/Bryan could do at least 6 months. Or Punk/Bryan/Ziggles. Kane is a great workhorse.
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Post by sharktrager on Jan 9, 2013 7:26:10 GMT -6
One problem Punk has to deal with is Smarks.
No matter what he does they cheer him. And they cheer him even more as a heel because he cuts such great scripted shoot promos. So to a certain degree he has to to the "Your local team sucks" stuff because 1) Smarks hate that and will boo it and 2) other smarks will boo because they're playing along.
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Post by Ed Becker on Jan 10, 2013 4:07:54 GMT -6
sharktrager: One problem Punk has to deal with is Smarks.
No matter what he does they cheer him. And they cheer him even more as a heel because he cuts such great scripted shoot promos. So to a certain degree he has to to the "Your local team sucks" stuff because 1) Smarks hate that and will boo it and 2) other smarks will boo because they're playing along. I agree with that to a point. Nowadays, smarks are a given percentage of the audience. Some towns more so than others, see Philly vs. Green Bay. Also, with my experience at the latest Milwaukee Raw (Punk and Lawler in the cage, the week before King's grabber) is that today's WWE crowd, the one that buys tickets and gimmicks, is pretty marky and in fact, reminiscent of crowds of years past in its level of markiness. But, the people that paid to be there wanted to be there and were most likely to be WWE fans. Seems obvious to me. I also didn't talk to anybody with the exception of the retard parent that wanted to put their Goddamned kid in my extra seat. That didn't matter because the retards were running up and down the aisle. FWIW, these people were retarded regardless of whatever part of being in public was involved. Now granted, I'm still used to being not in the crowd. The reaction to Punk was borderline surreal. They didn't know whether to cheer or boo him. They wanted to cheer him, but they couldn't fully do so since most everybody loves Lawler. They would pop at the static blast and then come down when he was heeling. This happened every time he came out.
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Post by sharktrager on Jan 10, 2013 11:10:57 GMT -6
WWE has mishandled Punk the same way they mishandled Cena.
They need to grasp that there are 2 audiences and go with it. A certain audience will buy gimmicks and go with the script on heel/face. The other audience will buy talents and who they support is based on that. It's really just a variation on the Attitude Era where there were "faces" who were far from good guys.
But they insist on trying to force the issue and it screws things up. That's how we end up with faces acting like heels because they are trying so hard to make heels look weak they have to have faces do shit good guys wouldn't do to make the face look strong. They don't seem to get what attracts a smark to a wrestler is talent in the ring and on the mic. And they also don't get that sometimes the smark reaction to a heel is not booing the heel's actions or performance, but a lame angle or some other bullshit forced by Vince and the cock sucking writers he employs.
Look at the running away from the ring crap. Every heel they have has done it lately. It's absolutely ridiculous. There is no reason heel has to equal coward. They just get locked in to finishes and use them over and over (see "small package roll-up" in the Diva division). I get that there is little new under the sun, but there are plenty of ways to end a match with a face getting a win, but they can't seem to do it without making the heel look weak.
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